<div dir="ltr">Записах се в Дудъла. Може ли Петко да уточни дали ще присъства, защото от коментарите и поведението му в IRC, разбирам че не е заинтересован.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mario Mishev <<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net">mario@ludost.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Добавих ги,<br>
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Ако някой иска още нещо да сложа/променя - казвайте<br>
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On 07/23/2018 05:50 PM, Mario Mishev wrote:<br>
> Да добавя 24-27.07 от 19:30?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 07/23/2018 05:42 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:<br>
>> Ще ми е по-неудобно за вторник и сряда, ама ако не ви устройват <br>
>> четвъртък и петък, и на това бих се навил. Doodle update?<br>
>><br>
>> Vladimir Vassilev<br>
>> root @ init Lab<br>
>> +359 885 448475<br>
>> <a href="http://initlab.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org</a> <<a href="http://initlab.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org/</a>><br>
>><br>
>> 2018-07-23 17:36 GMT+03:00 Vasil Kolev <<a href="mailto:vasil@ludost.net" target="_blank">vasil@ludost.net</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:vasil@ludost.net" target="_blank">vasil@ludost.net</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Аз нямам проблем да пропусна ИББ и да го направим в сряда от 19<br>
>> (вторник вечер имам една среща и вероятно няма да имам възможност).<br>
>> Останалите ОК ли сте със сряда (25.07)?<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:03:47 +0300<br>
>> Mario Mishev <<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Аз исках да е Съботно-Неделно за да не ни е притеснено че времето<br>
>> > няма да ни стигне, освен това да сме свежи, защото си <br>
>> представям че<br>
>> > след работа ще е по-трудно да се концентрираме, иначе нямам <br>
>> против,<br>
>> > ако е по-удобно на всички, да го направим и през седмицата.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 07/23/2018 05:01 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:<br>
>> > > Ок, благодаря, това изяснява малко контекста. Остава питането ми<br>
>> > > дали би ви било удобно да направим срещата за някой от работните<br>
>> > > дни. Впрочем на 26 и 27 юли съм отпуска, та вероятно ще съм край<br>
>> > > Лаба, когато не съм по нотариуси и други глупости, та тогава би<br>
>> > > било най-идеалното време за мен.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Vladimir Vassilev<br>
>> > > root @ init Lab<br>
>> > > +359 885 448475<br>
>> > > <a href="http://initlab.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org</a> <<a href="http://initlab.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org/</a>><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > 2018-07-23 16:52 GMT+03:00 Венцислав Атанасов<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>>>>:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > По-скоро че всички са заети (което е нормално де), отделя <br>
>> се в<br>
>> > > пъти по-малко време отколкото предишни години, пишат се<br>
>> някакви<br>
>> > > issues които стоят нерешени с години, а може да са въпрос<br>
>> на 2-3<br>
>> > > часа, най-много ден.<br>
>> > > Също че цялото място е в будна кома, няма достатъчно <br>
>> членове,<br>
>> > > няма коуъркъри, плащат се едни наеми и консумативи, вътрим се с<br>
>> > > данък от фактури, които не ни издават. Малко грубо звучи<br>
>> погледнато<br>
>> > > по този начин, но не мисля че съм далеко от реалността.<br>
>> > > Идеята е да мислим варианти това да се промени в дългосрочен<br>
>> > > план. Ако не можем - има ли смисъл да се борим с неизбежното,<br>
>> или е<br>
>> > > време да се откажем?<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:45 PM Mario Mishev<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>><br>
>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > В общи линии се започнаха разговори, че никой нищо не<br>
>> прави<br>
>> > > в последно<br>
>> > > време и Лаба се е превърнал в едно пусто място.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On 07/23/2018 04:41 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:<br>
>> > > > Впрочем някой ще обобщи ли какво се е случвало <br>
>> толкова в<br>
>> > > > IRC?<br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > Vladimir Vassilev<br>
>> > > > root @ init Lab<br>
>> > > > +359 885 448475<br>
>> > > > <a href="http://initlab.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org</a> <<a href="http://initlab.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://initlab.org/</a>><br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > 2018-07-23 16:39 GMT+03:00 Венцислав Атанасов<br>
>> > > <<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:user89@gmail.com" target="_blank">user89@gmail.com</a>>>>>:<br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > Относно колко беше смислена дискусията - ако <br>
>> всички<br>
>> > > знаем че има<br>
>> > > > проблем, и си мълчим и сме ок с това - няма да се<br>
>> > > >поеме<br>
>> > > инициатива<br>
>> > > > не само за решаване, а дори за дискутиране. Затова<br>
>> > > >мисля<br>
>> > > че беше<br>
>> > > > нужно да се изкоментират тези неща, "да се сложат<br>
>> > > >картите на масата" и да започнем, не да свикваме с<br>
>> това че<br>
>> > > >има<br>
>> > > проблем, а да<br>
>> > > > мислим как да го решаваме.<br>
>> > > > Аз лично допринасям с какво мога, но ако виждам че<br>
>> > > останалите<br>
>> > > > отлагат някакви (дори дребни) задачи, започвам<br>
>> да се<br>
>> > > демотивирам.<br>
>> > > > Не казвам че не мога да свърша всички неща от тези<br>
>> > > >които<br>
>> > > ми се<br>
>> > > > иска сам, но смятам че както в един опън сорс <br>
>> проект<br>
>> > > >е<br>
>> > > хубаво да<br>
>> > > > има намесени няколко човека, така и в нашия формат<br>
>> > > >на<br>
>> > > хакерспейс е<br>
>> > > > по-добре да хванем с някого и да свършим дадена<br>
>> > > >задача,<br>
>> > > ако ще и<br>
>> > > > той само да стои да гледа и да дава акъл.<br>
>> > > > Знаете какво се случи с Хакафе, дори и поради<br>
>> > > по-различни причини.<br>
>> > > > Не ми се иска да се случи същото и с инит лаб.<br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:32 PM Mario Mishev<br>
>> > > <<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>><br>
>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>>>><br>
>> > > >wrote:<br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > Лично аз много бих искал срещата да се<br>
>> проведе с<br>
>> > > всички на едно<br>
>> > > > физическо място, но да видим как ще отговорят<br>
>> > > >другите.<br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > ><br>
>> > > > On 07/23/2018 04:30 PM, Vasil Kolev wrote:<br>
>> > > > > ОК ли сме с remote присъствие? На 4/5.08 е<br>
>> > > варнаConf и не<br>
>> > > > съм сигурен<br>
>> > > > > още, но най-вероятно ще ходя.<br>
>> > > > ><br>
>> > > > > Иначе, да. Проблемът го има, аз съм също <br>
>> така<br>
>> > > >част<br>
>> > > от него -<br>
>> > > > около<br>
>> > > > > детето и работата не ми остава кога да се<br>
>> > > занимавам с лаба,<br>
>> > > > и като цяло<br>
>> > > > > почти всичките си лични проекти съм ги<br>
>> отебал и<br>
>> > > >не се очертава скорошна<br>
>> > > > > промяна, за съжаление.<br>
>> > > > ><br>
>> > > > > По подобни причини и дискусията, с която се<br>
>> > > >почна<br>
>> > > в #initlab<br>
>> > > > не ми се<br>
>> > > > > виждаше смислена и излязох от нея, за мен си<br>
>> > > >беше<br>
>> > > гигантска<br>
>> > > > загуба на<br>
>> > > > > време. Може би и моето виждане за лаба<br>
>> почва да<br>
>> > > >се<br>
>> > > разминава<br>
>> > > > с това на<br>
>> > > > > останалите, та нека да се видим и ако <br>
>> трябва,<br>
>> > > >да<br>
>> > > свикаме<br>
>> > > > едно общо<br>
>> > > > > събрание.<br>
>> > > > ><br>
>> > > > ><br>
>> > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 16:22:19 +0300<br>
>> > > > > Mario Mishev <<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>><br>
>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>><br>
>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mario@ludost.net" target="_blank">mario@ludost.net</a>>>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > > > ><br>
>> > > > >> След интензивна дискусия в #initlab,<br>
>> искам да<br>
>> > > повдигна<br>
>> > > > въпроса какво<br>
>> > > > >> правим с/в ГС Init Lab.<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> Ясно е че в последно време никой нищо не<br>
>> > > >прави<br>
>> > > в/за лаба и<br>
>> > > > нещата са<br>
>> > > > >> на автопилот. След като Владо започна в<br>
>> > > >Деврикс и предупреди че ще е<br>
>> > > > >> зает с работа, още по-малко има шанс да се<br>
>> > > случват неща.<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> Моля това писмо да не бъде четено като<br>
>> > > >критика<br>
>> > > срещу който<br>
>> > > > и да било<br>
>> > > > >> индивидуално, целата му е да се заформи<br>
>> > > >дискусия<br>
>> > > около<br>
>> > > > съдбата на<br>
>> > > > >> Лаба и ние като негови членове и <br>
>> най-активни<br>
>> > > contributors.<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> Предложението ми е да се съберем и обсъдим<br>
>> > > сериозно какво,<br>
>> > > > как и кога<br>
>> > > > >> можем да направим по въпроса с цел<br>
>> > > >продължаване и<br>
>> > > най-важното<br>
>> > > > >> развиване на ГС init Lab.<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> По мои виждания проблема е поне <br>
>> двустранен -<br>
>> > > нямаме голяма<br>
>> > > > членска<br>
>> > > > >> маса, а текущата е заета с лични неща и<br>
>> > > >съответно има дефицит на<br>
>> > > > >> време/желание за занимание с дори текущите<br>
>> > > >issue-та свързани с Лаба.<br>
>> > > > >> Това се отнася и до мен самия - аз може <br>
>> и да<br>
>> > > >съм<br>
>> > > физически<br>
>> > > > там, но не<br>
>> > > > >> се занимавам с Лабови дела, а лични<br>
>> > > >(най-често<br>
>> > > играене на<br>
>> > > > игри).<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> Всякаква форма на критика се приема спрямо<br>
>> > > >това мое предложение, и за<br>
>> > > > >> да съм по-конкретен в искането си, моля<br>
>> > > >изберете<br>
>> > > си ден от<br>
>> > > > doodle-а,<br>
>> > > > >> в който да се съберем.<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> <a href="https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf</a><br>
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>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >> Поздрави,<br>
>> > > > >> Марио<br>
>> > > > >><br>
>> > > > >><br>
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