[Us] Сбирка и дискусия относно съдбата на ГС инит Лаб
Vladimir Vassilev
vloo at initlab.org
Wed Jul 25 15:21:58 EEST 2018
Ок, сбираме се на неформална среща тъз вечер, та да си говорим за Лаба :)
7:30 остава началния час, пък който дойде по-рано, ще подгрява.
Vladimir Vassilev
root @ init Lab
+359 885 448475
http://initlab.org
2018-07-25 10:57 GMT+03:00 Ivaylo Markov <ivo at schupen.net>:
> Още един глас за ИББ.
>
> On 07/24/2018 04:14 PM, Vasil Kolev wrote:
>
> Аз съм повече за ИББ, щото там има ядене :)
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:53:57 +0300
> Mario Mishev <mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net> wrote:
>
>
> Аз съм ок и с двете, като предпочитам да е в Лаба.
>
> On 07/24/2018 11:15 AM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:
>
> Очертава се да е утре срещата. Остава да решим дали на ИББ или в
> Лаба е по-добре. Мене ми е все тая, тъй че нека кажат останалите
> как се чувстват по въпроса. Дали е среща на УС или неформална
> дискусия - също не смятам, че има съществено значение в случая.
>
> Vladimir Vassilev
> root @ init Lab
> +359 885 448475http://initlab.org <http://initlab.org/> <http://initlab.org/>
>
> 2018-07-23 19:04 GMT+03:00 Венцислав Атанасов <user89 at gmail.com <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>:
>
> Записах се в Дудъла. Може ли Петко да уточни дали ще присъства,
> защото от коментарите и поведението му в IRC, разбирам че не е
> заинтересован.
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mario Mishev <mario at ludost.net
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>> wrote:
>
> Добавих ги,
>
> Ако някой иска още нещо да сложа/променя - казвайте
>
>
> On 07/23/2018 05:50 PM, Mario Mishev wrote:
> > Да добавя 24-27.07 от 19:30?
> >
> >
> > On 07/23/2018 05:42 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:
> >> Ще ми е по-неудобно за вторник и сряда, ама ако не ви
> устройват
> >> четвъртък и петък, и на това бих се навил. Doodle update?
> >>
> >> Vladimir Vassilev
> >> root @ init Lab
> >> +359 885 448475
> >> http://initlab.org <http://initlab.org/> <http://initlab.org/>
> >>
> >> 2018-07-23 17:36 GMT+03:00 Vasil Kolev
> >> <vasil at ludost.net
> <mailto:vasil at ludost.net> <vasil at ludost.net>
> >> <mailto:vasil at ludost.net <vasil at ludost.net> <mailto:vasil at ludost.net> <vasil at ludost.net>>>:
> >>
> >> Аз нямам проблем да пропусна ИББ и да го направим в
> сряда от 19
> >> (вторник вечер имам една среща и вероятно няма да
> >> имам
> възможност).
> >> Останалите ОК ли сте със сряда (25.07)?
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:03:47 +0300
> >> Mario Mishev <mario at ludost.net
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Аз исках да е Съботно-Неделно за да не ни е
> притеснено че времето
> >> > няма да ни стигне, освен това да сме свежи, защото
> >> си представям че
> >> > след работа ще е по-трудно да се концентрираме,
> >> иначе
> нямам
> >> против,
> >> > ако е по-удобно на всички, да го направим и през
> седмицата.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 07/23/2018 05:01 PM, Vladimir Vassilev wrote:
> >> > > Ок, благодаря, това изяснява малко контекста.
> Остава питането ми
> >> > > дали би ви било удобно да направим срещата за
> >> някой
> от работните
> >> > > дни. Впрочем на 26 и 27 юли съм отпуска, та
> вероятно ще съм край
> >> > > Лаба, когато не съм по нотариуси и други
> >> глупости,
> та тогава би
> >> > > било най-идеалното време за мен.
> >> > >
> >> > > Vladimir Vassilev
> >> > > root @ init Lab
> >> > > +359 885 448475
> >> > > http://initlab.org <http://initlab.org/> <http://initlab.org/>
> >> > >
> >> > > 2018-07-23 16:52 GMT+03:00 Венцислав Атанасов
> >> <user89 at gmail.com <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>
> >> > > <mailto:user89 at gmail.com
> > <user89 at gmail.com>> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>>>:
> >> > >
> >> > > По-скоро че всички са заети (което е
> >> нормално
> де), отделя
> >> се в
> >> > > пъти по-малко време отколкото предишни
> >> години,
> пишат се
> >> някакви
> >> > > issues които стоят нерешени с години, а може
> >> да
> са въпрос
> >> на 2-3
> >> > > часа, най-много ден.
> >> > > Също че цялото място е в будна кома, няма
> достатъчно
> >> членове,
> >> > > няма коуъркъри, плащат се едни наеми и
> >> консумативи,
> вътрим се с
> >> > > данък от фактури, които не ни издават. Малко
> >> грубо
> звучи
> >> погледнато
> >> > > по този начин, но не мисля че съм далеко от
> >> реалността. > > Идеята е да мислим варианти това да
> >> се промени
> в дългосрочен
> >> > > план. Ако не можем - има ли смисъл да се борим
> >> с
> неизбежното,
> >> или е
> >> > > време да се откажем?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:45 PM Mario Mishev
> >> <mario at ludost.net <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>
> >> > > <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > В общи линии се започнаха разговори, че
> никой нищо не
> >> прави
> >> > > в последно
> >> > > време и Лаба се е превърнал в едно пусто
> >> място. > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 07/23/2018 04:41 PM, Vladimir
> >> Vassilev
> wrote:
> >> > > > Впрочем някой ще обобщи ли какво се е
> случвало
> >> толкова в
> >> > > > IRC?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Vladimir Vassilev
> >> > > > root @ init Lab
> >> > > > +359 885 448475
> >> > > > http://initlab.org
> >> <http://initlab.org/> <http://initlab.org/> > > >
> >> > > > 2018-07-23 16:39 GMT+03:00 Венцислав
> >> Атанасов > > <user89 at gmail.com
> > <user89 at gmail.com>> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>
> >> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>>
> >> > > > <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>
> >> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com <user89 at gmail.com> <mailto:user89 at gmail.com> <user89 at gmail.com>>>>>:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Относно колко беше смислена
> дискусията - ако
> >> всички
> >> > > знаем че има
> >> > > > проблем, и си мълчим и сме ок с
> >> това
> - няма да се
> >> > > >поеме
> >> > > инициатива
> >> > > > не само за решаване, а дори за
> дискутиране. Затова
> >> > > >мисля
> >> > > че беше
> >> > > > нужно да се изкоментират тези
> >> неща,
> "да се сложат
> >> > > >картите на масата" и да започнем, не
> >> да
> свикваме с
> >> това че
> >> > > >има
> >> > > проблем, а да
> >> > > > мислим как да го решаваме.
> >> > > > Аз лично допринасям с какво мога,
> >> но
> ако виждам че
> >> > > останалите
> >> > > > отлагат някакви (дори дребни)
> >> задачи,
> започвам
> >> да се
> >> > > демотивирам.
> >> > > > Не казвам че не мога да свърша
> >> всички
> неща от тези
> >> > > >които
> >> > > ми се
> >> > > > иска сам, но смятам че както в
> >> един
> опън сорс
> >> проект
> >> > > >е
> >> > > хубаво да
> >> > > > има намесени няколко човека, така
> >> и в
> нашия формат
> >> > > >на
> >> > > хакерспейс е
> >> > > > по-добре да хванем с някого и да
> свършим дадена
> >> > > >задача,
> >> > > ако ще и
> >> > > > той само да стои да гледа и да
> >> дава акъл. > > > Знаете какво се случи с
> >> Хакафе, дори
> и поради
> >> > > по-различни причини.
> >> > > > Не ми се иска да се случи същото и
> >> с
> инит лаб.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:32 PM
> >> Mario
> Mishev
> >> > > <mario at ludost.net
> > <mario at ludost.net>> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>
> >> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>>
> >> > > > <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> >> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> >> <mailto:mario at ludost.net
> > <mario at ludost.net>> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>>>> > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Лично аз много бих искал
> >> срещата
> да се
> >> проведе с
> >> > > всички на едно
> >> > > > физическо място, но да видим как ще
> отговорят
> >> > > >другите.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 07/23/2018 04:30 PM, Vasil
> Kolev wrote:
> >> > > > > ОК ли сме с remote
> >> присъствие?
> На 4/5.08 е
> >> > > варнаConf и не
> >> > > > съм сигурен
> >> > > > > още, но най-вероятно ще ходя.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Иначе, да. Проблемът го има,
> >> аз
> съм също
> >> така
> >> > > >част
> >> > > от него -
> >> > > > около
> >> > > > > детето и работата не ми
> >> остава
> кога да се
> >> > > занимавам с лаба,
> >> > > > и като цяло
> >> > > > > почти всичките си лични
> >> проекти
> съм ги
> >> отебал и
> >> > > >не се очертава скорошна
> >> > > > > промяна, за съжаление.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > По подобни причини и
> дискусията, с която се
> >> > > >почна
> >> > > в #initlab
> >> > > > не ми се
> >> > > > > виждаше смислена и излязох
> >> от
> нея, за мен си
> >> > > >беше
> >> > > гигантска
> >> > > > загуба на
> >> > > > > време. Може би и моето
> >> виждане
> за лаба
> >> почва да
> >> > > >се
> >> > > разминава
> >> > > > с това на
> >> > > > > останалите, та нека да се
> >> видим
> и ако
> >> трябва,
> >> > > >да
> >> > > свикаме
> >> > > > едно общо
> >> > > > > събрание.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 16:22:19
> >> +0300 > > > > Mario Mishev
> >> <mario at ludost.net
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> >> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>
> >> > > <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>>
> >> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>
> >> > > <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net> <mailto:mario at ludost.net <mario at ludost.net>
> <mailto:mario at ludost.net> <mario at ludost.net>>>>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> След интензивна дискусия в
> #initlab,
> >> искам да
> >> > > повдигна
> >> > > > въпроса какво
> >> > > > >> правим с/в ГС Init Lab.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Ясно е че в последно време
> никой нищо не
> >> > > >прави
> >> > > в/за лаба и
> >> > > > нещата са
> >> > > > >> на автопилот. След като
> >> Владо
> започна в
> >> > > >Деврикс и предупреди че ще е
> >> > > > >> зает с работа, още
> >> по-малко
> има шанс да се
> >> > > случват неща.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Моля това писмо да не бъде
> четено като
> >> > > >критика
> >> > > срещу който
> >> > > > и да било
> >> > > > >> индивидуално, целата му е
> >> да
> се заформи
> >> > > >дискусия
> >> > > около
> >> > > > съдбата на
> >> > > > >> Лаба и ние като негови
> >> членове и най-активни
> >> > > contributors.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Предложението ми е да се
> съберем и обсъдим
> >> > > сериозно какво,
> >> > > > как и кога
> >> > > > >> можем да направим по
> >> въпроса с цел > > >продължаване и
> >> > > най-важното
> >> > > > >> развиване на ГС init Lab.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> По мои виждания проблема е
> >> поне двустранен -
> >> > > нямаме голяма
> >> > > > членска
> >> > > > >> маса, а текущата е заета с
> лични неща и
> >> > > >съответно има дефицит на
> >> > > > >> време/желание за занимание
> >> с
> дори текущите
> >> > > >issue-та свързани с Лаба.
> >> > > > >> Това се отнася и до мен
> >> самия
> - аз може
> >> и да
> >> > > >съм
> >> > > физически
> >> > > > там, но не
> >> > > > >> се занимавам с Лабови дела,
> >> а
> лични
> >> > > >(най-често
> >> > > играене на
> >> > > > игри).
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Всякаква форма на критика
> >> се
> приема спрямо
> >> > > >това мое предложение, и за
> >> > > > >> да съм по-конкретен в
> >> искането
> си, моля
> >> > > >изберете
> >> > > си ден от
> >> > > > doodle-а,
> >> > > > >> в който да се съберем.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf
> <https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf> <https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf>
> >> <https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf
> <https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf> <https://doodle.com/poll/a7wrp4i6aym4m8mf>>
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> >> > > >
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> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Поздрави,
> >> > > > >> Марио
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
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